How I quit smoking cigarettes by vaping tobacco – experience & tips

This post is meant to help those who smoke tobacco and want to quit combustion with the help of a DHV. I have no intent to make anybody vape tobacco who is not already smoking it anyway. Tobacco is unhealthy and highly addictive, regardless of how it’s consumed. Vaping it is not a healthy habit, just a potentially less harmful alternative to smoking.

TL;DR

  • The transition from smoking to vaping tobacco went smoothly for me
  • Zero thoughts about cigarettes after 4-5 days
  • Finding the right tobacco is crucial for the experience
  • Vaping tobacco is very well suited for everyday use
  • You can continually reduce nicotine by mixing with other herbs
  • You can save a lot of money as long as you don’t get VAS (Vape Acquisition Syndrome)

Contents

My transition

How I switched

It all started when a friend of mine got a vaporizer for his weed 2 months ago. Unfortunately, I can’t tolerate THC anymore, but that sparked the idea that I could use it to stop smoking. After some research I ordered an electronic vaporizer (more on that further down) and was ready to start my experiment one week later.

I must say, it went very smoothly and the transition was way easier than I had expected. Coming from smoking 10-15 hand-rolled cigarettes per day over 28 years, here is how it went for me.

Starting at day one, I committed myself to smoking zero cigarettes and to cure any craving by a vape session. Nicotine-wise, vaping was fully sufficient. For a few days, I missed the typical throat hit and had some lung craving, but that ceased rapidly after I found the right tobacco that produced sufficient vapor. More details on different tobaccos are given in a separate section.

Within as few as 4-5 days, vaping completely replaced smoking for me in a way that I didn’t miss anything and had zero thoughts about smoking a cigarette anymore.

I am now in my 7th week of vaping instead of smoking and started to reduce the nicotine intake by mixing with other herbs. My tobacco consumption decreased to approx. 30% of what I was smoking, naturally without deliberate reduction, even without stretching with other herbs.

I am not sure whether I will be able to stop consuming tobacco completely. Even if not, my transition to vaping tobacco certainly has significant health benefits. Please keep in mind, though, that not inhaling anything is still healthier than vaping, and that I am not a medic and can’t give any profound health-related advice.

Why it worked

I can only guess here why the transition worked so well for me, but I have a few clues.

I think a very important point was to cut down to zero cigarettes from the first day on. This way, I was able to dissolve the associations between typical triggers (like coffee, work breaks etc.) and smoking a cigarette very fast. I just used the vaporizer instead, so I could keep the ritual and also satisfy my need for nicotine. I had minor lung craving, but only the first days.

In addition to switching from smoking to vaping, my tobacco consumption, and probably also my nicotine intake, reduced naturally without forcing it. Key aspects are the more efficient extraction compared to smoking, and smaller bowl sizes compared to a cigarette’s worth of tobacco.

Finally, I noticed that I am craving less for nicotine now and can have longer breaks than with smoking. This seems to have at least two reasons. First, without smoking, you don’t inhale carbon monoxide, which is often blamed for part of the cigarette ‘hit’, though I’m not entirely sure how big that contribution really is. Second, nicotine peaks are smoothed when vaping compared to smoking, so you don’t have extreme heights followed by steep declines that make you want to smoke now.

Taken together, I believe the key was decoupling the ritual from the substance rather than fighting both at once: I didn’t have to give up my coffee-break routine or go through nicotine withdrawal, I only had to change the tool. Everything else seems to have taken care of itself.

Practical experience

The taste of vaped tobacco

From the start, I liked the taste of vaped tobacco. I didn’t find it overly harsh, contrary to what most people report in vaporizer forums or on reddit. It is definitely somewhat harsher than weed, but I’ve come to really enjoy the sweet, mellow, full flavor of the tobacco I settled on after some trial and error.

I also find that the nuances of different tobacco types and brands are clearer than with smoking. However, there are also large differences in the vapor production and general feeling of satisfaction, so finding the right tobacco is crucial. More on that below.

Suitability for everyday use

There are different aspects to how suitable vaping is for everyday life compared to smoking.

Vaping requires some work, namely filling your bowl. This is comparable to rolling a cigarette, but certainly more involved than taking one out of a pack. Many vaporizers can be used with dosing capsules, which may help if you don’t want to fill your bowl while out and about.

If you get a compact portable electronic vape, it will look very similar to an e-cigarette for others. So nobody will think that you are vaping weed.

There is almost no smell from vaping tobacco, and it does not smell like smoke in any way. So you will likely be able to vape in situations where you could not smoke, and you won’t bother non-smokers with your stink.

As you will probably vape more frequently than the average weed user, your energy supply may be the most critical usability issue. Depending on your daily routine, you may need a vape with swappable batteries or a power bank.

You will need to clean your vaporizer regularly. However, contrary to what you may have read already, tobacco does not gunk it up too much. I clean mine every few days with isopropanol and q-tips, which takes me about 5 minutes.

Devices

I don’t have enough experience with different devices to give detailed recommendations, but I would like to share my experience so far.

I have a small electronic vaporizer that basically looks like an e-cigarette that I mainly use in public. It is a Norddampf Relict for €120, which is basically a re-branded Weecke Rush with a glass mouthpiece. I am satisfied with it, but there are certainly better options available. I particularly value its compact stealthy format, but I can’t compare it with other electronic vapes as I haven’t tried any other. It has a 0.25g bowl with dosing capsules, and a bowl serves me for a session of about 4-5 minutes with a draw frequency similar to smoking a cigarette.

Further, I have a DynaVap M7XL which is my main device when not in public. It is more flavorful and more intense than my electronic vape, but handling it with the torch looks too suspicious for use in public. Its 0.1g bowl lasts me 3-4 heating cycles with 3 lung draws or 5 mouth-to-lung per cycle.

Both devices use conduction, so I can’t judge how well convection vapes work with tobacco.

Temperatures

I started out with 210°C (410°F) to get a sufficient throat hit and enough vapor production with the suboptimal tobacco that I had in the beginning. Within 2 weeks of getting used to it and after finding a suitable tobacco, I lowered it to 190°C (374°F). This is completely sufficient for nicotine extraction and vapor production.

Inhalation techniques

If you are a cigarette smoker, you will likely need to change your inhalation technique. Instead of mouth-to-lung (MTL) like with a cigarette, you will need to inhale direct-to-lung (DTL). With the Dynavap, mouth-to-lung (MTL) works too as long as the “airport” is closed, but it may be less satisfying, as the vapor is less dense than smoke.

Choosing & preparing tobacco

Finding the right tobacco

Finding the right tobacco is crucial to make the transition a good experience, and may even determine your success overall. Contrary to how I did it, you may even want to do this before you stop smoking. You will probably need to try several types and brands of tobacco, but I hope that I can provide some guidance here.

First of all, you should use hand-rolling tobacco without any additives. By now, there are plenty of brands of additive-free tobacco available. If you have friends who smoke those brands, you could ask them for a small sample to try in your vaporizer instead of buying a whole pack just to test it.

I tried several brands before I settled on Pielroja, which has a nice full, smooth and sweet flavor. Others I tried that didn’t work, mainly due to a lack of vapor production, were American Spirit, Pueblo and Pepe.

Just to be clear: I have no affiliation with any of these brands. I’m naming them purely because concrete examples are more useful than vague recommendations.

What I noticed is that Virginia tobaccos seem to work well, particularly those with a sweet and fruity smell. Tobaccos that smell “just like tobacco” (American Spirit blue) or those that have almost no smell, or merely like dust or a barn (Pueblo) produce very little to no vapor. Pepe was just harsh and unbearable.

Further, tobaccos with a fine cut work better than those with a coarse cut.

Preparing the tobacco

Most tobaccos are too moist for vaporization, so you need to dry them. I usually take my approximate daily ration, spread it out on a saucer and let it sit for a few hours or overnight. It should be just moist enough that it does not crumble to dust when you rub it between your fingers.

There is no further preparation necessary. If the tobacco has a fine cut, you don’t need to grind it. In conduction vaporizers, you can give it a relatively dense pack in the bowl, probably a bit denser than you would with weed.

Mixing with other herbs for taste and nicotine reduction

You can mix your tobacco with other herbs to improve the taste, reduce harshness, or to reduce your nicotine consumption.

For my electronic vape, where a full bowl already exceeds my nicotine demand, I go for a mix of 50% tobacco, 30% mullein for good vapor production, and 20% damiana for taste. I find this mixture really delicious and smooth.

Financial aspects

Initially, you will have to invest some money in at least one vaporizer. If you are not too ambitious, you will get a sufficient one for 100-150 €/$.

However, you will quite certainly reduce your tobacco consumption naturally for two reasons. First, a full bowl of a portable vaporizer contains way less tobacco than a cigarette’s worth (e.g. 0.2g vs. up to 1g). Second, nicotine extraction in a vaporizer is more efficient than combustion.

For me, a 0.2g bowl has been totally sufficient to replace a cigarette.

Further, if you come from smoking cigarette packs, you will save even more by switching to hand-rolling tobacco.

Personally, I reduced my tobacco consumption to 30%, without forcing anything or restricting myself, even before I started mixing with other herbs. From 1.5 30g packs per week, I reduced to one pack in 2 weeks. This saves me the cost of one pack per week, i.e. 6-7€. So the Dynavap redeems itself in 3 months.

However, you should be warned that there is VAS (Vape Acquisition Syndrome), which may more than cancel out these savings. For example, I am already flirting with the idea to get a Dani Fusion 2.0.

Questions to the community

I hope this post will be helpful for anyone who wants to quit smoking and considers using a dry herb vaporizer for that sake.

I would be very interested in experiences with vaping tobacco in this community, in recommendations for tobacco blends worth trying, and in the story of your transition away from combustion.

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I let a woman stay with me for a time that smoked cigarettes to the tune of a pack a day. She tried nicotine gum and patches, but still wore the patch and had gum in her cheek as she smoked.

I gave her one of my MFLBs as a designated tobacco vape device. She liked it and used it to vape tobacco in between cigarettes, as she used the other tools simultaneously.

I tried it also, and it was overpowering for a non-tobacco user.

That is my only experience with tobacco and vapor.

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Thank you for sharing this @Vitolo. Yeah, vaping tobacco is probably harsh and too much nicotine for a non-smoker. I really wouldn’t recommend it.

Regarding the simultaneous use, as written in the post I committed myself to zero cigarettes from the start, and I think it plays a crucial role in my success. But I guess with vaping it is much easier than with other substitutes like gums and patches, because you can still have the ritual and some (mild) lung feeling. Maybe with simultaneous use, the risk is that you just end up with more nicotine overall, which could make things even worse.

But honestly, I was not such a heavy smoker to have a full pack a day. And even if I was (and still am) dependent on nicotine, smoking was not a way to compensate something or to suppress emotions. So it might have been easier for me than for some others.

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I’ve been smoking for almost 30 years. Started vaping but couldn’t stop smoking cigarettes and joints. One day I realized that ONE day without smoking anything makes me STOP coughing when vaping. So there I had my motivation to finally stop combustion, and I did.

I got myself those heating devices for tobacco sticks, as I don’t trust any liquid. I come from rolling cigarettes, so these sticks quadrupled my expenses for nicotine. Also, while it worked, the hits were somewhat unsatisfactory and the session was over way too soon. And that was a good thing, because 4 months later I finally got sick of that shit and quit it completely. Spontaneously, funny enough. I couldn’t have done it like that with real cigarettes, they’re too strong to just let go. I loved them tbh. But letting these weak ass heated stick shit go, was just reliving.

It wasn’t only easy though, took me couple weeks. Today I get spontaneous but very short cravings like 1-2 times a year, but that’s it. I’m clean for more than 1.5 years now and I’m 100% sure that I’ll never ever expose myself again to nicotine in any form. Knowing this makes me happy every day.

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Thank you @eyevape for sharing your smoke stop story! Great to read that you could get rid of tobacco completely, apparently also with the help of some kind of vaping.

For liquids, I have similar concerns. Further, I really don’t like their artificial smell and don’t want to inhale synthetic aromas. For these heat-not-burn devices, one issue is the price, and the other one is that you are locked to that one manufacturer. Also, from what I’ve read, the tobacco is highly processed and certainly not free of additives.

Regarding coughing, I noticed that my (light) coughing in the morning vanished on the second day after my switch.

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I smoked cigarettes for 45 years. Last May was 10 years no tobacco. I watched my BIL die from throat cancer. I took about a year, he weighed 80 pounds in the end.

I’m not afraid to die, but I don’t want to go like that. I rationed myself my last 10 packs of cigarettes to last 3 weeks, and the last day I had 1 after breakfast, and the last one after supper.

First day without, no problem. Second day without was tough, but I powered through. I wasn’t using cannabis at the time, or any nicotine patch or any other help.

I could suck down a Marlboro with a cup of coffee right now, and I’d love it. No way I would ever go back. Low temp volcano hybrid bag with coffee is a morning ritual now. Much better.

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I smoked a pack a day for at least 17 years. I tried to stop a few times when the patches came out. I think I only got a month or two smoke-free after the patches were done, but they failed, so I quit when cigarettes finally hit five dollars a pack in Southern California in 2004. I decided to do what everybody else that I knew who quit successfully did, and I quit cold turkey. This September 5 will be 22 years cigarette-free, and I would never ever go back. I wish I had never started in the first place.

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Thank you both @Crush-Hardtack and @cyclops214 for sharing your cold turkey stories. Respect for that! Sorry about your BIL.

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Yea tobacco sucks. Nicotine is such a weird drug, almost no effects but still makes you crave like crazy. Managed to stop smoking for good a few months ago after only smoking joints for a while before (only smoked cigarettes the last 4 years, before it was just joints and bong hits with tobacco).

I always preferred the effects from vaping but the addiction always got me back eventually. Now I don’t have cravings anymore, even when drinking alcohol. Just sometimes for a few secs but its really rare.

Quitting can be hard but its all about determination. Relapse isn’t the end, its part of the journey. Eventually you will reach the point where you can actually call it quits but you have to be ready for it. Do it for yourself and nobody else or it wont work. I know its a bit old but the Allan Carr method actually helped me a lot. Its a bit weird but can work wonders.

In the end you just gotta ask yourself what are you gaining from nicotine? I enjoy being high and drunk way more now because I can just enjoy the moment and not always fiend for more. As soon as nicotine is involved I feel like I never get enough. Even though I am adequately high and drunk already I want to smoke and drink more and more. Its a vicious cycle and just not worth it imo.

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Tobacco kills. So does booze. Glad OP is beating this devil. :trophy:

CR

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I thought I’d share my story because my journey away from combustion wasn’t as straightforward as simply quitting cigarettes one day and switching to a vaporizer.

I smoked cigarettes for roughly 25 years, usually around 15–20 cigarettes a day. Eventually, I decided I had to quit.

And technically, I did stop smoking cigarettes.

But what happened next was something I didn’t really recognize at the time: my joint consumption increased dramatically.

I had always mixed my cannabis with tobacco, and after quitting cigarettes I started compensating by smoking a lot more joints. Eventually, I was consuming around 3 grams of cannabis per day, almost always mixed with tobacco.

Psychologically, I kept telling myself: “I quit cigarettes.”

But in reality, I hadn’t really quit tobacco at all.

Even though I wasn’t taking cigarettes out of a pack and smoking them normally anymore, I was still going through the equivalent of almost two packs of cigarettes worth of tobacco every week just by mixing tobacco into my joints.

It was basically a loophole I had created for myself. In my head, I was an ex-smoker because I wasn’t “smoking cigarettes” anymore. In reality, I was still consuming tobacco every single day and, obviously, I was still inhaling combustion.

That realization was important for me.

If my goal was actually to quit smoking, simply replacing cigarettes with more tobacco-mixed joints wasn’t quitting combustion. I had changed the delivery method, not eliminated the habit.

That’s when dry-herb vaporization became really important for me.

My Mighty+ was the vaporizer that really showed me that I could consume cannabis differently. I could still have the ritual, the effects and the enjoyment I was looking for without needing tobacco and without setting my cannabis on fire.

Once I committed to vaporization, I was finally able to eliminate the tobacco from my cannabis and stop smoking joints.

That’s when I consider that I actually quit smoking.

No cigarettes.

No tobacco mixed with cannabis.

No joints.

No combustion.

Something else happened that I wasn’t expecting: my cannabis consumption dropped massively.

I went from consuming around 3 grams per day while smoking joints to roughly 1 gram per day with dry-herb vaporizers. I simply didn’t need anywhere near the same amount anymore.

The physical difference was also noticeable. My stamina improved dramatically. I could walk for hours, and I even completed a 30 km trail. After approximately 25 years of smoking, being able to do that felt pretty damn good.

Of course, there was one unexpected side effect…

I became completely obsessed with vaporizers. :joy:

What started as a way to get away from tobacco and combustion turned into a full-blown hobby. I started experimenting with convection, conduction, hybrid heating, different bowls, airflow, glass, induction heaters, mechanical vapes… and somehow I ended up with a collection of 30+ vaporizers. :joy:

But behind all the collecting, there’s a reason this hobby means something more to me.

For years, I genuinely believed I had quit cigarettes while continuing to consume almost two packs worth of tobacco every week through my joints. Dry-herb vaporization was what finally allowed me to break that connection between cannabis, tobacco and combustion.

And whenever I talk about vaping here, I’m specifically talking about dry-herb vaporization, not cartridges.

For me, buying my first proper dry-herb vaporizer wasn’t simply buying another cannabis gadget.

It was ultimately the tool that helped me actually quit smoking after roughly 25 years.

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long before I tried DHV I was a nicotine vaper on the rebuildable side. coming from that experience where you avoid spending money that’s not needed and get a better result I preferred to try butane vapes.

my first was an M7 and after freeing myself from my addiction to nicotine I stupidly tried vaping tobacco with it. I thought I’d give my compulsion to vape another place to go.

it was pretty rough and needed water to be tolerable. that was a conduction experience. since then being frequently dankrupt I’ve switched to using a Vaphit X bowl on a bonger with a loose quartz cap or my Tornado. there is definitely an effects difference between tobacco with conduction and with convection. I’m more satisfied by the X tip and quartz cap. it’s a smaller bowl but it’s easier to get it just the right temp to yield good vapor and still give me a head rush. I get nowhere near as satisfied with conduction leaning vapes. if those kinds of effects are what people would enjoy I’d say try convection leaning setups that you don’t mind tasting of tobacco without a massive cleaning.