# The QOQ & QOQ+ by Vaphit **URL:** \ **Category:** Portable Vaporizers\ **Created:** [October 13, 2026, 4:11pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530 "2026-10-13T16:11:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/tigolebitties/32/9669_2.png) [@TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/TigoleBitties)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2026, 11:44pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/41 "2026-10-19T23:44:57Z")
> [@jackrod](#): > > When I asked vaphit for the size of the QOQ+ bowl, they said it was 12mm OD, 10mm ID. Oh cool. I just ordered a Goodie that also uses 12mm OD stems. > [@jackrod](#): > > Or if you want something with a bigger capacity, get the Terpedo etc. She’s a beast. I got one back in the day specifically to try using it with an IH but it ended up being too wide to fit all the way through the Wand. The bowl is huge. On the order of half a gram at least. ---
**Author:** ![jackrod](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/jackrod/32/12668_2.png) [@jackrod](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/jackrod)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2026, 11:55pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/42 "2026-10-19T23:55:42Z")
> [@TigoleBitties](#): > > Oh cool. I just ordered a Goodie that also uses 12mm OD stems. Goodie is an interesting one, I like the 12mm stem size. That’s what the larger of my logs use, and I believe is the size of the V-stick, Quartz Cap Mini, “I’ll think of something”, 14mm quartz cap and Terpedo as well. It’s a standard tubing size for 14mm male joints, but there are also some 13mm ones out there. > [@TigoleBitties](#): > > The bowl is huge. On the order of half a gram at least. Yeah wouldn’t fit all the way through the wand. Do you have calipers to measure the OD of the heater? I would be curious if it might fit the YLL with an induction sleeve or if it would need a custom IH. Some of Dave’s vapes are ridiculous with the bowl size haha. ---
**Author:** ![TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/tigolebitties/32/9669_2.png) [@TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/TigoleBitties)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 12:05am UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/43 "2026-10-20T00:05:25Z")
> [@jackrod](#): > > Goodie is an interesting one, I like the 12mm stem size. That’s what the larger of my logs use, and I believe is the size of the V-stick, Quartz Cap Mini, “I’ll think of something”, 14mm quartz cap and Terpedo as well. It’s a standard tubing size for 14mm male joints, but there are also some 13mm ones out there. I’m stoked to try it and I’ll write a review. Yeah 12mm OD seems to be a popular size. Arizer stems are also 12mm OD but widen to almost 15mm at the bowl side. I don’t have precise calipers but I’ll try and eyeball the OD of the Terpedo heater with a ruler when I dig it out. Full disclosure though, I’ve read that it’s been through a few iterations and I have an early one. I think he’d even discontinued it at one point and brought it back recently. ---
**Author:** ![jackrod](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/jackrod/32/12668_2.png) [@jackrod](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/jackrod)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 12:22am UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/44 "2026-10-20T00:22:39Z")
Yeah it’s come back recently, it now has a slightly different design. Removed the slits on the bowl and flared the test tube. Might be slightly thicker too. I think the terpedo was one of his earliest designs. The new one should be more durable. To get back on topic though I feel like the vaphits are an interesting different approach. The little metal collar is a nice solution. Glad to see they are correcting mistakes proactively. ---
**Author:** ![Tempus](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/tempus/32/14872_2.png) [@Tempus](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/Tempus)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:55am UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/45 "2026-10-20T09:55:01Z")
Weird. I didn’t even notice the qoq+ until it was mentioned here. RN only vaphit has them in stock. It’s actually a little cheaper than the original (ss vs titanium collar) but the design improvements look promising. Larger, domed bowl and more airflow. I think that’s the winner for me. Just gotta wait for vgoodiez to get it in so I don’t have to pay an extra $20 for shipping and duties 😐 ---
**Author:** ![DarthDomo](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/darthdomo/32/10952_2.png) [@DarthDomo](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/DarthDomo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 1:49pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/46 "2026-10-20T13:49:46Z")
VGoodiEZ already has the plus listing created on the site, just out of stock. On the same page as the QoQ under a dropdown. Should be in stock soon I’d think 🙂 once vaphit gets the first batches sent out to the partners Very excited. I think this thing can have some very real potential as my new beginner recommendation. The TRWW stuff is lovely and an insane value, but the handling will always be off putting to a lot of people. The metal collar system totally fixes that IMO. The bowls being quartz are nice as well, with my QoQ I’ve actually just been torching my QoQ bowls to clean any chazzing, til the quartz glows. I’m sure it’s not recommended by them lol, but works great. The TRWW bowls work well, and he’s flexible with pinches and bowl sizes, but the pinches can be difficult to clean, and still require a mesh screen for use with most ground flower. The integrated quartz screens in the QoQ and now QoQ plus are a big boon for me. ---
**Author:** ![TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/tigolebitties/32/9669_2.png) [@TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/TigoleBitties)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 8:16pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/47 "2026-10-20T20:16:33Z")
> [@jackrod](#): > > Do you have calipers to measure the OD of the heater? So I found my old Terpedo heater that I tried to get working with the Wand. I used some metal foil held in place with wiring and it might’ve worked but didn’t fit in the Wand like I said earlier. The OD was about 18mm as near as I could measure without calipers. ![PXL_20261020_192557110.MP](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/6/1/615f98a47073340f2262d1bd50158964375f70ea.jpeg) I’ll probably pull the trigger on the QoQ or QoQ+ to try IH with them. ---
**Author:** ![jackrod](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/jackrod/32/12668_2.png) [@jackrod](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/jackrod)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/48 "2026-10-20T21:23:46Z")
Thanks for the info. That makes sense. Unfortunately a little large to fit in the YLL once the ss is on, maybe a bigger IH like the bolt buster ones or the mini ZVS would work. ---
**Author:** ![DocBone714](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/docbone714/32/12417_2.png) [@DocBone714](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/DocBone714)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 8:03pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/49 "2026-10-25T20:03:19Z")
Replacement bowls are 10 bucks on VGOODEZE 🙂 They break 🤷🏻‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Iamacat](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/iamacat/32/16938_2.png) [@Iamacat](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/Iamacat)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 8:36pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/50 "2026-10-25T20:36:46Z")
That’s great about VG! I’m in Canada so that $10 would be more like $80 CAD to my door and I’m probably underestimating 😅 anyway it’s all good since direct from China is usually tax free and quick enough these days ---
**Author:** ![DocBone714](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/docbone714/32/12417_2.png) [@DocBone714](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/DocBone714)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 9:44pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/51 "2026-10-25T21:44:18Z")
Glad you have free trade with CHIna but no politics eh ---
**Author:** ![SolidAir](https://420vapegeeks.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SolidAir](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/SolidAir)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 6:53pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/52 "2026-10-26T18:53:03Z")
I’m confused, what’s the difference really between the QoQ and the HX? ---
**Author:** ![TheDankDestroyer](https://420vapegeeks.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TheDankDestroyer](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/TheDankDestroyer)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 7:53pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/53 "2026-10-26T19:53:54Z")
The HX has a metallic bowl, while the QoQ has a quartz bowl. ---
**Author:** ![McScruffy](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/mcscruffy/32/12064_2.png) [@McScruffy](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/McScruffy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 10:53pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/54 "2026-10-26T22:53:26Z")
![IMG-20261026-WA0011](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/d/a/da127b45a5a0776a08fde7cf22bd3d5651a96c29.jpeg) My QoQ plus showed up yesterday and I had a chance to open and assemble it today. Feels nice enough and I did a dry run with a torch (Yocan Katana) to familiarize myself. I’ll hopefully get a chance to try it in the next week after I get a chance to grind some more for my Reloads. Should this do whole nugs ok? Might be able to try sooner, if so. The threads on this first one seemed to be perfectly fine but I still worked them a bit like the email said. The fixed kit they sent as part of that support email to everyone that bought early should be here in a couple of days so I’m planning to give that to my buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Cannasseur68](https://420vapegeeks.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Cannasseur68](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/Cannasseur68)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 11:23pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/55 "2026-10-26T23:23:11Z")
I’d say it could do whole nugs. Just going to be a PITA to get the spent nug out unless you got tweezers handy. I’m going to try a whole nug in the reg QoQ I have. ---
**Author:** ![TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/tigolebitties/32/9669_2.png) [@TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/TigoleBitties)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2026, 1:43am UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/56 "2026-10-27T01:43:45Z")
I don’t own a QoQ (yet) but all these types of vapes made from glass or quartz similar to the Vaponic make use of radiant heat really well. Whole nugs should vape just fine. ---
**Author:** ![DarthDomo](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/darthdomo/32/10952_2.png) [@DarthDomo](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/DarthDomo)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2026, 2:56am UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/57 "2026-10-27T02:56:30Z")
> [@McScruffy](#): > > Should this do whole nugs ok? Might be able to try sooner, if so. Got my qoq pluses today. Yes, it absolutely does. ![IMG_6764](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/7/6/76df2d70ec6c5037489b4a0971445951807bd4e9.jpeg) ![IMG_6765](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/6/0/609fa1598c66a34fe4b0c746ea35ec5d59b86b52.jpeg) will give more thoughts tomorrow… it’s great though, I’m blasted off my ass, hard to type. Here’s some pretty pictures. The straight tube mouthpiece sucks, besides that, 10/10 buy it. The vaphit spiral mouthpiece, a simrell vortex, a firewood stem, whatever, it will be better. They include a WPA, just use that with a dry pipe or cooling stem even. Them including the WPA makes it not an issue IMO, although personally I would have always used my own stems anyways. ![IMG_6762](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/5/8/58835b78711650f6c2b783a2a5aa8c98abf73452.jpeg) ![IMG_6710](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/8/0/80d0816d14444ef4a6fe69a401d2784b37fb26b3.jpeg) ![IMG_6735](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/f/9/f9dbd2ce3c81b20729efb2f3e1a36d52efc62147.jpeg) ![IMG_6734](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/1/8/1878d980078438b9be08f6175601d6526f266a0f.jpeg) ![IMG_6748](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/3/0/306fc30ee7d03bc7c3c95defbaa0760500183e77.jpeg) ![IMG_6751](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/9/5/959d4504476d38f6bdf3d6ce32cb0d8affc59eb7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/tigolebitties/32/9669_2.png) [@TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/TigoleBitties)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2026, 3:29am UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/58 "2026-10-27T03:29:14Z")
Looks great 👌. Oddly enough, I am also blasted off my ass after using my 18mm quartz cap from TRWW. I’m more stoned than a biblical whore. I’ve been trying to get the QoQ or QoQ+ from soothingvapors up here in Canada but they’ve been sold out for a while now. I wanna see if I can get it working with an IH. ---
**Author:** ![Iamacat](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/iamacat/32/16938_2.png) [@Iamacat](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/Iamacat)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2026, 9:52am UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/59 "2026-10-27T09:52:43Z")
I’m in Canada and ordering direct from Vaphit site was smooth. No customs/duties etc and shipment was pretty fast (within a couple weeks I think) Edit: oh and about IH use. Yes you absolutely can 🙌🏻 This was a big OHE at 75w for 60 seconds in the YLL IH 3.0 using a strip of magnetic 430 stainless steel wrapped around the cap. Definitely pushed it to max extraction so can probably lower watts or seconds next time ![IMG_4578](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/5/8/58023f1e088b055b58698ba2dd38a8eb3e36b6f9.jpeg) ![IMG_4580](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/9/1/91cd8d1cce11a92f8b37a20465b426f375385759.jpeg) ![IMG_4579](https://420vapegeeksdiscourse-803871049052-us-east-2-an.s3.dualstack.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/uploads/original/3X/d/4/d4235b010314f573cad6d177a4497e0702dbd5de.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/user_avatar/420vapegeeks.com/tigolebitties/32/9669_2.png) [@TigoleBitties](https://420vapegeeks.com/u/TigoleBitties)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2026, 1:53pm UTC](https://420vapegeeks.com/t/the-qoq-qoq-by-vaphit/3530/60 "2026-10-27T13:53:22Z")
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