JCVAP Herbcloud The Crown

There’s been a bit of buzz drumming up over on discord with the herbcloud crown from jcvap

JCVap Herbcloud Crown

Credit goes to Chillmike for putting me onto this.

The crown is designed for use as a portable ball vape accessory for the herbcloud.

The crown, however, conveniently fits inside the YLLVape 3.0 and it just so happens that the stars align and these two pair as an excellent portable ballvape setup.

I say excellent with the preface that this device costs $15usd without media.

You have the option of 2mm rubies or SiC as well.

I went with the rubies and immediately filled it with a 50/50 mix of 3mm SS and 2mm rubies.

Initially I tried 100w with the glass insert removed and the spacer in the very bottom.

It worked but the crown would glow incredibly bright :grimacing:

Next I tried 80w and with the glass back in, and this is where I’ve stayed.

I’m using an 18mm injector bowl and loads between 0.1g and 0.3g

The crown goes in the yll for 45secs at 80w from cold and 30secs for reheats

I find I get one big tasty hit per heat with a stir in between.

I’ve also been using it with the lotus bowl as a sort of diffuser (it seals with the bowl but isn’t a tight fit) and it also works great. Even on the gentleman pipe, this thing is surprisingly cool for essentially a ball vape to the face.

The lotus bowl needs 30secs from cold in the YLLVape and 20sec reheats.

Keen to hear if anyone else here has tried this out?

Or any suggestions of bowls worth trying with this device?

I’ve got a second one on the way so I can side by side compare different media or hot swap out of the yll for back to back hits.

8 Likes

you know I have. Works well with the T.Bowl

5 Likes

Here’s a video of it in action with the YLLVape and injector bowl.

I’ve also found that a Simrell wpa handle fits the device which is super handy

And if you have a wireless ball vape stand it may just be compatible as a heat sink

edit: fixed the video link

4 Likes

this looks cool

the first version showed a lot of promise, and the updates look even better

1 Like

Yeah. I love the function and form factor.

1 Like

Yeah the form factor makes for a unique twist on your existing setup. Plenty of fun to tinker with and a very capable extraction for your troubles.

It won’t provide the “ultimate ball vape” experience but $15 it feels like a no brainer for those with the tools on hand.

3 Likes

It reminds me a lot of the Sandcastle Vapor Wand (the original butane ball vape) I released as a DIY on the FC forums.

4 Likes

It’s a smooth little thing.

2 Likes

That t-bowl is such a nice fit! :sign_of_the_horns:

2 Likes

Do you think the Crown could be effectively heated with a torch? Maybe a timed quick pass by back and forth or whatever technique you had in mind. Very intrigued by this little device.

1 Like

Yes! I’ve been thinking about this lately. No reason you couldn’t use a torch but I think the right choice is important.
Too big of a flame and you’ll have the outside titanium glowing for too long and you won’t get as much heat dispersion in the media.
I’ve been thinking about playing around with a blazer spitfire on a fairly strong flame or the ronxs dual flame to better wrap around the chamber.
Will have to give it a go soon :fire:

3 Likes

Ok I’ve taken a few measurements of my unit to help with bowl compatibility.

OD 16.6mm
ID 15.6mm
Diameter of collar 19.8mm
Length of head from outer rim to collar 20.5mm
Length from outer collar to inner media screen 9.4mm

I took these measurements with a fairly basic digital caliper.

Does anybody have a crossing micro matrix bowl, a micro passthrough bowl and some digital calipers?
Would love to know if these would work!

2 Likes

A hair too big

Hornet bowl fits

2 Likes

Bowl compatibility list

Compatible

  • 19mm injector bowl
  • Lotus bowl
  • Tinymight t.bowl
  • IO Hornet stinger bowl

Incompatible

  • Crossing micro passthrough bowl

Untested potentials

  • IO Hornet conduction bowl
  • Crossing micro matrix bowl

Another interesting development, credit goes to ColdAssistant on discord..

The TKO infinity ring fits the crown as another super convenient way to add a handle

4 Likes

Hornet conduction bowl fits but the fit isn’t as tight as the T.bowl.

2 Likes

Ok @FortyFistHits you’ve convinced me to order a t.bowl :grin:

Had a bit of fun playing with some M8 rod and a Dynavap hydravong stem as a handle

Cut the rod to size and popped on a sacrificial o-ring.

You could make a little stir tool with 8mm connection to keep in the other end of the stem

Also tested fitment with the ispire wand bangers..it fits but basically takes up the entire length of the banger..maybe a tiny 0.05 would work.

4 Likes

Nice idea with the handle! I’ve been thinking about a different top.

Any woodcarvers out there? Could make some cool little figures and stuff

2 Likes

I think I found a source of the original handles and more..

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqOhrfZ

2 Likes

It’s be great to hear the quantity of media (balls) needed to fill the device, and if this mix you used was nice or whether you recommend all rubie, or ?

1 Like

What’s a t.bowl? I wish I was as in the know as you!

1 Like